30th April 2012
Today’s blog post is from a question sent to me on Facebook. I have used “FBer” in place of the person’s name just out of respect for them and their privacy. I think it touches an issue that we must always keep in mind when defending the faith and I hope you agree. If you don’t feel free to contact me and we can discuss this. Thank you for taking the time to read this post and enjoy! Soli Deo Gloria!
- FBer- Some atheist say they have good reason to believe that we can have good morals without the existence of a God. They believe that since we are of the higher primates of the world that this is possible. What is SGA’s take and how would you make a case against it?
- Sovereign Grace Apologetics- Of course they could have morals without a belief in God right? This is, of course, by only earthly standards they certainly don’t do everything for the glory of God. Their problem is they don’t have an objective morality it’s totally subjective. It’s either comes from their own opinion or the opinions of society. I would ask them if it was moral to kills Jews in Germany?
- FBer- Amen. Let me rephrase the question.
- Some atheists believe that there is no need for a God to have morals. They believe that people who believe in God that gave what morals are under the falsehood of fiction. How would you engage a conversation with an atheist who believes that morals can exist with no God?
- Sovereign Grace Apologetics- Well, how would we define morals without a moral law? I mean who says it’s wrong to rape and kill babies without a transcendent law that tells each one of us it’s wrong. If there is a transcendent law that say’s it’s wrong, no matter when or where you are, then there is a law giver who transcends as well. Any person willing to think through these issue is forced to admit that there has to be a transcendent Being who we will all be held accountable to.
- This doesn’t really deal with the real issue though, which is the gospel. Proving to someone the existence of a god/God isn’t our goal as Christians, the great commission is. God uses the gospel to save His elect, not intellectual arguments. I would debate the issue of the existence of a God but I would NEVER end there. I would always be pointing to Christ and Him crucified. :)
- FBer- Amen, practical apologetics.
- Sovereign Grace Apologetics- Yes if our intent in our apologetic is anything other than furthering the Kingdom of God, we failed.
- FBer- Been there. Quite a few times in the past. I think most apologist have a couple times made it about “finding the right answer” rather then relying on the Holy Spirit. I know I have at times. I have a few buddies that are college professors that I go rounds with, and sometimes have got caught up in it and never said a word about the gospel. It can be a trap sometimes, for sure
- Sovereign Grace Apologetics- For sure, debate is fun when done in respect but we have a greater calling! I’ve been guilty of this as well though!
- FBer- Well, we move on, press in and continue.
Amen FBer! Keep defending the faith with vigor! We live in perilous times and we have an urgent need for soldiers of Christ to defend the faith!
"…be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear." 1 Pet. 3:15